Proposal: Arena Sponsors

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Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by IGankMid on Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:15 pm

I believe that we have enough fighters and have done enough fights that we have enough practice to try something new. As demonstrated in Seline v. Niabi, it can be pretty fun to have outside parties betting on a match, allowing people who aren't involved to comment and enjoy the fight.

Therefore, I propose that we expand the scope of the Arena to include sponsors (or "patrons"): characters that don't actually fight, or fighters who are betting on the outcome of a fight, that stand to gain or lose something based on the outcome. The fighters themselves can choose to fight in the name of their sponsors, or the sponsor can step in as a mysterious benefactor during the fight to provide boons or surprise elements for the fight.

Sponsors/patrons can also have additional demands on a fight: for example, require special outfits to be worn, or have an additional requirement for victory. Those are just a few of the ideas that having a third (or fourth) party involved in the Arena can offer.

Dueling sponsors is an idea I haven't really fleshed out yet, but if the fighter of one sponsor/patron wins, perhaps the sponsor can ask something of the losing sponsor.

It's time that we get more people than Queen Syndra affecting the outcome and environment of a fight. I have a few ideas for sponsors/patrons myself, since I work slowly enough that I can't do too many Arena fights, but I can certainly comment and spice things up as a third party. Thoughts?

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by TeratonArm on Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:29 pm

Tbh I was thinking of something like this too, though I only have a few vague ideas for sponsors of my own. It could be an interesting way to introduce new facets to a match when so needed or wanted, plus like you said it allows for some measure of involvement when schedules would either restrict people from the arena. I like the idea, and am interested in seeing what people could come up with.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by IGankMid on Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:35 pm

Great to hear the idea has traction! To make things easier, I was thinking of having a central sponsor/patron topic in the Bodice where the sponsors could meet with/send for the fighters they want to help out. This works best for storylines and longer relationships.

Alternatively, of course, the sponsor could jump right into a fight topic at the start and it'd be as simple as "I bet 10,000 gold pieces on the outcome of this match," or "I offer as a donation to the crown 10,000 gold pieces for a boon to X participant."

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by TeratonArm on Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:51 pm

That could work. I was wondering if sponsors couldnt also be placed somewhere on the character sheets page. Of course, they should probably marked in the title to differentiate them, though that still has the issue of flooding that section with them. I was thinking of maybe just making my own thread in the character sheet page to list off sponsors of my own making, kind of like how you did the bounty list.

Which, I guess, would kind of be what you had in mind for a thread in the Bodice? Maybe there should be separate threads- one where people can post/list the sponsors they make and other threads (or a singular thread?) where people can actually write in character for their fighters and characters to meet.

That came out a little more "stream of consciousness-y" than I meant it to, but I hope that makes sense.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by IGankMid on Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:56 pm

My original idea was to give the sponsors a sub-forum in the character sheets page. I believe they deserve their own, smaller versions of character sheets, but we don't need them cluttering up the actual fighters' pages.

As for the Bodice threads, there should be no hard and fast rules. Some sponsors will want to have open threads where as many fighters can pile in as they like. Others will be more selecting and will specifically send for fighters of their choosing.

A central thread would work best if it's just sponsors/patrons meeting in the VIP section of either the Arena or a special tavern that isn't the Bodice. That way the sponsors have the opportunity to talk amongst themselves with an air of exclusivity.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by TeratonArm on Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:04 am

Makes sense to me, I like it.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by Myds6 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:24 am

Interesting development.  I'd be game. Let's see what the mods have to say.
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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by cerindclvr on Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:55 pm

Oh man, this is a fantastic meta idea. I've hinted at 'arena management' as being the mysterious group of people (largely unnamed except for Aloysius the announcer and 'the director') that maintain and organize all the mechanics of the arena. Presumably though, especially among the free people fighting in the arena, there could be a host of wealthy folk or nobility or just interested third parties who have a stake in the arena's outcomes.

I think this is a fantastic idea, for whomever wants to get involved in it, and perhaps a sub-thread somewhere is what's needed. Otherwise we can perhaps add it to fighters' profiles as a note, or just do it on a case-by-case basis depending on the fight. e.g. Sari the noble wants to sponsor Iron Ash for a match, and she pays off the arena managers so that she gets to choose her embarrassing undergarments... Or, perhaps more interestingly as an example, Fiora the stuck up but hot noble makes a private wager with her nemesis which forces the sponsor of the loser to have to join them in the arena upon the fight's completion.

There's a lot of room for interesting meta-mechanics here, possibly even some world-building and developing. As I've said before, this is our project, so ideas like this excite me greatly and reinforce the feel of this being a big, organic thing we've created.
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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by cerindclvr on Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:57 pm

addition: I didn't quite state this clearly in my examples... but one of the fun things (that people touched upon in earlier posts here) is that this makes for good opportunities for the less-available people to still influence things in game. In my example above, clearly, some other player is controlling 'Sari the noble' in order to influence a match with say, me and someone else. Someone pretty much said that in so many words, but I'm just restating what makes this such a great idea, I suppose, hehe...
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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by IGankMid on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:03 pm

Excellent! I think we could definitely use more than a single thread, though. I think a sub-forum in the Arena would work a little better, as well as a sub-forum in the character sheets that lets us post the sponsors' info. Simply for organization's sake.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by Myds6 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:29 am

I can't wait to write up a sponsor. I have some ideas.
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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by Phantompen on Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:52 am

I'll go ahead and say I like and approve of this idea. My internet is being spotty with loading pages and completing processes at the moment, but I'll work on making proper subforums when things are working more reliably.

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Re: Proposal: Arena Sponsors

Post by splotch on Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:04 pm

I've got an idea for a Demon Queen sponsor, will be written up soon

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